Unimog Club UK
Hello New Members => Introduce Yourself => Topic started by: Whateverwhocares on June 26, 2013, 11:27:32 pm
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Bang bang (on / off) solenoids on hydraulics are fine and you can use the lever in my case on the steering column to vary the flow, however beware when tipping as flicking the switch with the lever locked in full flow sends the tipper up like a catapult!
You'd be surprised what has proportional electro hydraulics on - hedgecutters, diggers etc so have a look on ebay and I could have a spare soon as well.
Will take the pics of the output pto and wedge in another forum when I get to them.
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i was 8 when i first drove a unimog, drove it straight through a fence :D
the underbelly pto currently isnt fitted on the green mog at the mo, but yes, you can use the underbelly pto for a hydraulic pump (its what it was originally designed for, it allows you to keep the mog on tickover, but if you fit a pump thats too big, you could damage things as it would build too much pressure up for the implement when you rev it up) but it does reduce your belly clearance a lot. and yeah, i'll see if i can help :) but post it in one of the technical forums please ;)
and that was cheap!
at 4 grand i think we'll go with switches :D
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I like the idea of a crew cab and I saw your truck in the forum, will need to do something soon as I have two sons, a 3 year old and 4 month old so I don't know how they will both fit in (unless I modify the pedals so the 3 year old can reach them as his driving and steering is spot on and I'll sit in the back!).
Another mod I've thought of is wouldn't mind being able to turn it 'off' the hydraulics and not pump oil around when I don't need it, as for a high speed pto to which could drive the hydraulics can that do it?, I think I have one on another gearbox, if I take a picture of it can you help identify what it is?
As for cost, I don't spend much apart from lots and lots of time, the 406 was £2850 with the addition of a LWB chassis, cab, gearbox and axles which was nice, but the guy listed it on the Friday before Christmas day with poor spelling and pictures so all I'd say is save your money and search at Christmas!, so don't worry Nick, use the power of ebay and 'saved searches'!
The sauer danfoss valve block was in exchange for some plastering, (had to buy the joystick, again you can guess where from Ebay Europe somewhere) and I'd recommend it as you only have to wire the joystick to the valve block and happy days (although it's a 24V unit), really nice not to drip oil everywhere when you disconnect the quick release couplers, I wouldn't buy one outright as their +4K new, but I did manage to pick 2, 4 spool proportional parker valves up off ebay recently when a guy didn't know what they were (one's for the crane remote control project, other spare).
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I love it when these things get competitive! I don't suppose I'll ever be able to afford to match either of them to be honest! :'(
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Ok, her goes:
high ratio hubs, underbelly high speed pto, pto driven werner f56 or f64 winch (which ever we choose to put on, f64 has a 7 tonne pull rate, f56 has a 71/2 tonne LIFT rate, variable pull, autofeed, fully remote control, 300 feet of rope etc...) werner winch blade (demountable blade, legal requirement in germany) , rear linkage, front and rear pto, full cascade gearbox, hiab crane (forget which model) only 270 degree rotation though, the constant rotation is very nice :) webasto heater, Michelin XM47's . crew cab, although that depends on your requirements on whether thats an advantage or not :P but that is what makes ours so unusual, the fact that its a crew cab with all that gear on, take a look around some of the forums (such as benzworld) and theyve put a link to the youtube video, and people are amazed at how much kit is on it. oh, and we also have a pickup hitch, but we've never actually bothered with fitting it.
it does need some work doing on the cab ;)
I have to say, what i like most is actually the 4 spool proportional valve with joystick, we were thinking of doing something like this on the 406 120 with switches instead, but might talk to dad about the joystick, although we'd only ever use it for lifting and lowering a flail on the black mog so is it really worth it for us?
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Hi Castro,
Thanks for asking about the chipbox, unfortunately I use 3 plywood sheets and netting on the top, the sheets are really useful for protecting the ground / tarmac when working etc and easy to throw in and out of the back. A trailer to move the bobcat is the next thing I've got in my sights, once I've got around to making the crane remote control.
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Blimey... A look at the pictures of this truck have got me more than a little bit jealous! That crane is just amazing!
Welcome to the forum Ed - I don't think I've ever seen a 406 kitted out with so much cool stuff. The bottle of wine at Christmas certainly made your investment decisions work well for you. I'm half way through a bottle of rum this evening (not something I make a habit of) but I still don't think I could make the jump that you have! I should keep my rambling to a minimum as I do go on a bit after I've had a few, but I think this is one of the best U900's I've ever seen (sorry Brian...)! ;)
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Yeah that's a nice setup. I guess you dont fancy a chip box on the mog? I do fancy a crane at somepoint just not sure if it goes on the mog or trailer!
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Castro, I do chip into the trailer or take the crane off and carry the chipper on the 3 point linkage and chip into the back when I have a few little jobs on in a day.
My chipper is a Vermeer 625AI with a slight modification i.e. folding chute, tracks and a slew ring ( I got fed up of being tied to moving all the brash to the chipper so spent a week putting it together). Best thing I did with it and as you can see below, I can now take the chipper to the job. Vermeer didn't even ring me up about it when I showed them the pictures in 2008, at least Greenmech copied it for the next APF but mine is the only one that can spin around and around.
Good thing is that the unimog can carry it so I don't have to have the trailer, and the crane can lift it over a hedge.
I'd recommend Tico cranes, I borrowed a friends and liked it as it can spin around and around, so a search on ebay again and a year later found this one, although in a right state (new hoses, tubes, valve block and controls) it fixed up ok. Shame Hiab bought them out and 'closed them down'.
Mine's a K472, they also do a larger one and I watched one on ebay go down south for 600 pounds on a trailer, so they don't fetch much, but you do have to do some hydraulic work as it returns all the oil back into an integral tank.
Winch on the crane is excellent, you can lower and lift vertically which is really trick with a hiab as you will know if you have one, and conifer hedges stand no chance as their not out of reach! I sell firewood in 1 cubic metre bags and I've got the hang of using both the winch and fixed crane hook to tip up the bags as well, so really versatile.
The Landy was picked as it's capable of towing an Ifor at 3.5 tonnes and has no electronics, new Nissan style pick up's look good but cannot tow much more than 2.6 tonnes so I don't believe their legal to tow big ifors, so no use to me. Back to the old school really and parts are cheap so cannot complain. Still does 30mpg which isn't that bad.
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2, the first one sucked. The second ones a god! 8) we need a new crane, ours is old hat now :P
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how many vans have you had already bri? :D
i'm liking the winch on the crane as well! had a few jobs where theat would have been rather a bit usefull :)
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plus parts are cheap :)
yeah, but if you use them properly you have to replace them every 5 minutes... ;)
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Yeah stick some more pics up. I guess u chip into the trailer?
I run a 300tdi in my 110, and don't think u can beat them for what they do. plus parts are cheap :)
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landrovers do have their place, but i would never have a defender, mainly cause i would never hear the end of it, but also cause ive been spoilt by g-wagons. Unimogs had heated windscreens in the 1960's ;) Dad had a g wagon in MOD green, the radar proof stuff, it got blasted once a year to get the salt off and that was it :D
We're always interested in pictures 8)
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I forgot to say I do have a 300tdi 90 land rover as well as my daily ride, they have their purposes and it's a winterised version out of the MOD, so it's not the normal freezing cold one, it has mod cons like a webasto, radiators in the back, heated front and rear screens (not bad for a 1991 vehicle) and a lovely MOD green and black paint job which the wife dislikes so all I do is go and pressure wash it and hey presto another shade of green or black appears, happy days.
Castro, let me know if your interested in any close up pictures and I can take some and put them in the other forum.
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Welcome along ed :)
Liking the set up 8) keep sticking pics up as it looks a nice rig, and its always interesting seeing other set ups.
Casto
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Hi Ed
Welcome to the club. That's a nice useful mog you have there. Better than a Landrover any day.
Nick
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i can certainly tell you which was the better vehicle to buy... and it has portal axles! Casto thinks the same as me as well ;)
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Thanks Brian,
It's amazing what a bottle of wine and ebay at Christmas gets you... started looking for a landrover and ended up with the unimog!
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Hi Ed,
welcome to Unimog Club UK, nice mog you have there, plenty of tricks up its sleeve as well! :D
Cheers, Brian ;D
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Hi, My name is Ed and I currently run a 406 in my tree surgery and firewood business based on the Staffordshire / Derbyshire border near Alton Towers. I've had the mog for 5? years and following repairing the cab with around 200 hours of work, over the years I have modified it considerably to suit me, so here goes:
Approx 1968, Ag spec, yellow, with fibreglass roof and 3 way tipper, modified by me to have a 4 spool proportional valve block under the back to run all the hydraulics, running off a joystick in the cab so no disconnecting quick connectors in the dark to tip, three point linkage, twin ram pick up hitch with hook and drawbar, webasto diesel fired water heater (excellent at defrosting!) Hydraulic 4 ton front winch, Tico Hiab crane which has a 20 metre winch on it and can rotate constantly, rated at 4.4 ton metres on it's own demountable frame (10 mins on and off).
Next things for the mog is to make the crane radio remote control and find a Mueller trailer to carry the wood and bobcat around on as the bobcat is too heavy for an Ifor Williams.