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General Topics Forums => Unimog build threads => Topic started by: Villager on February 17, 2013, 05:31:20 pm
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hi im having too anser here i cant send back on pm for some reson ..i will sort out some stuff when i get home saturday ok..
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sorry about that think my phone has prob,s..... do you still intrested in the 411 < emsworth hants 07821 626255 dan £4500
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Hi
You have sent two e-mails to me? Sorry, but I have not recieved them. Hope it does not appear rude, but not seen anything.
Mick
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hi i sent you two emails about my u411 and no anser will you talk too me one here then. :'(
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Got to admit, it is a handy place to look.
Just saw a 411 in poor order on e-bay, but think they are being ambitious with price.
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I actually learnt everything I know from YouTube ;) :D
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Sorry, I have been away from the forum for a while and missed that. I'm sure he still comes to you for answers when google fails him!
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Yes Brian is my son he likes to tell every one he learnt everything about Unimog from Google 😀😀😀
Moose
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Sorry, need to pay more attention.
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Bit confused here.
Did Villager sell this to Moose, or is it a name change on forum?
^Father& Son^
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Bit confused here.
Did Villager sell this to Moose, or is it a name change on forum?
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Keep us updated, i'm sure I am not the only one interested, if you like the look but want more space look at a Santana PS10 pick up cab, a lot more room internally, bigger windscreen etc.
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We pushed the front axle forward 300mm to increase stability but thinking now of building a new chassis and space frame not sold on Land Rover cab 😔
Moose
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What are the mods, comfort of ability?
Any up to date pics? Must admit I loved the concept.
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Still got it modified it a bit more and then something else comes along
Moose
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I'm pretty sure it was sold too. They've had some pretty major changes in vehicles over the last couple of years I think....
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I think it must have been sold. I must admit I have thought of doing something similar with mine or possibly a transit cab (saw one on e.bay years ago) but unsure how much work would be involved to do a job that you could actually live with.
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Not been here for a while, what has happened with the Landmog?
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mogs dont have syncros in reverse, g wagens do though :P
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wish they did!! right pain shunting around to drop chip off the other day.... wouldnt ave tip the chip where i did in a transit though :D :P
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Yes you could, I have one of the first 500 land rovers and i can do the hi-lo thing in that.
No syncromesh in reverse, a great shame, but it is 1/4 the price of a Mog
Why cant I brag, I have done it! With full permission. Vauxhall asked me to take a Fontera to the top, but baulked at the modifications needed.
Having said all that, if the land mog has hydraulics and a 3 point linkage at the back I may be interested!
mogs dont have syncros in reverse, g wagens do though :P
"brag" was a poor choice of words, it is an impressive feet. but i have heard about this, took me a while to find it, but check out 1928
http://www.austinsevenfriends.com/a750years%20part%201.htm
i doubt the landmog would suit your needs, the engine produces 65 BHP, so 100 bhp at the pto isnt gonna be easy! :D
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Yes you could, I have one of the first 500 land rovers and i can do the hi-lo thing in that.
No syncromesh in reverse, a great shame, but it is 1/4 the price of a Mog
Why cant I brag, I have done it! With full permission. Vauxhall asked me to take a Fontera to the top, but baulked at the modifications needed.
Having said all that, if the land mog has hydraulics and a 3 point linkage at the back I may be interested!
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Thanks, this is soon going to be for sale soon as we now have to many projects :( so the mog thats been with me all my life is going to leave.
could you go into low on the move even in early land rovers ???
Does a landrover have a syncromesh in reverse? ;)
and you can't brag about Nevis, somebody got prosecuted for driving up it in a frontera earlier this year :P
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Hi
Looks a great machine, would be even better with the three point linkage!
Just to point out that you CAN go from high to low on the move in a Land Rover and I have done many times.
The lack of cross axle locks is a huge omission by Land Rover, but can be fairly cheaply overcome with after market parts. I have used Quaife, ARB, Detroit lockers and Trutrak over the years, and when carefully driven they can go some places. I have had mine on the summit of Ben Nevis!
Mick
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Cheers for taking the time to update with loads of pictures. That thing is going to be a great toy when it's done.
I've seen them done with a Transit cab before which would leave more room for the bed on the back. That's the only down side I can see to this one.
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so, bit of progress on the landmog project recently, been remounting the cab so that its isometrically mounted, the back of the cab was just last week mounted with two rubber bushes, and long bolts so that the frame could pull away from the bushes, safe to say my self and Dad werent happy with it, so time for a 3 point conversion :)
this is how it looked before i started
(http://i1316.photobucket.com/albums/t611/everlastenergy/IMG_0501_zpsf66e8b50.jpg) (http://s1316.photobucket.com/user/everlastenergy/media/IMG_0501_zpsf66e8b50.jpg.html)
The back body was 3 point mounted, but im planning to change the mounting system anyway ::)
back body off
(http://i1316.photobucket.com/albums/t611/everlastenergy/IMG_0503_zps40c384e3.jpg) (http://s1316.photobucket.com/user/everlastenergy/media/IMG_0503_zps40c384e3.jpg.html)
first job, get rid of the current cab mounts
(http://i1316.photobucket.com/albums/t611/everlastenergy/IMG_0504_zps0fc07de1.jpg) (http://s1316.photobucket.com/user/everlastenergy/media/IMG_0504_zps0fc07de1.jpg.html)
this picture shows how we got the flex before, with an extra long bolt, it still caused the cab to twist though, one of the reasons i am changing it, along with its just proper to do it isometrically :)
(http://i1316.photobucket.com/albums/t611/everlastenergy/IMG_0505_zpsd74da77b.jpg) (http://s1316.photobucket.com/user/everlastenergy/media/IMG_0505_zpsd74da77b.jpg.html)
rubber bushes off
(http://i1316.photobucket.com/albums/t611/everlastenergy/IMG_0506_zps646c94dc.jpg) (http://s1316.photobucket.com/user/everlastenergy/media/IMG_0506_zps646c94dc.jpg.html)
so got the spider frame mount off (thats what the "triangle" attaches to behind the cab) didnt get a picture of that. as usual the big pins were seized in, one of the few things that do seize on these chassis. so i cut the triangle bits of and just pulled the whole thing off.
what i want to use for the pivot
(http://i1316.photobucket.com/albums/t611/everlastenergy/IMG_0508_zps43e371d6.jpg) (http://s1316.photobucket.com/user/everlastenergy/media/IMG_0508_zps43e371d6.jpg.html)
(http://i1316.photobucket.com/albums/t611/everlastenergy/IMG_0509_zpsf1e39b24.jpg) (http://s1316.photobucket.com/user/everlastenergy/media/IMG_0509_zpsf1e39b24.jpg.html)
some pics of the bare chassis
(http://i1316.photobucket.com/albums/t611/everlastenergy/IMG_0665_zps8aa9639c.jpg) (http://s1316.photobucket.com/user/everlastenergy/media/IMG_0665_zps8aa9639c.jpg.html)
(http://i1316.photobucket.com/albums/t611/everlastenergy/IMG_0666_zps8ae58885.jpg) (http://s1316.photobucket.com/user/everlastenergy/media/IMG_0666_zps8ae58885.jpg.html)
pics of the approx location of pivot
(http://i1316.photobucket.com/albums/t611/everlastenergy/IMG_0673_zps9df681c0.jpg) (http://s1316.photobucket.com/user/everlastenergy/media/IMG_0673_zps9df681c0.jpg.html)
(http://i1316.photobucket.com/albums/t611/everlastenergy/IMG_0672_zps29739164.jpg) (http://s1316.photobucket.com/user/everlastenergy/media/IMG_0672_zps29739164.jpg.html)
chopped the origional back body mount off
(http://i1316.photobucket.com/albums/t611/everlastenergy/IMG_0675_zps1985ed1f.jpg) (http://s1316.photobucket.com/user/everlastenergy/media/IMG_0675_zps1985ed1f.jpg.html)
clamped the pivot into its final resting place
(http://i1316.photobucket.com/albums/t611/everlastenergy/IMG_0699_zpscacb2d96.jpg) (http://s1316.photobucket.com/user/everlastenergy/media/IMG_0699_zpscacb2d96.jpg.html)
currently drawing the brackets to hold the pivot to the chassis and the cab to the pivot up on auto cad, then i'll get them plasma cut and it'll be time for some welding :)
Any questions feel free to ask.
Thoughts, ideas and opinions welcome as usual :D
Cheers, Brian ;D
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yeah, once theyre proper stuck theyre stuck, dad got one stuck once and it took 5 land rovers to get him out ;) hence the only time he ever needed pulling out by landrovers and hes never heard the end of it, not that we didnt pull them out several times ::)
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You're right about the driver. I know a fella who drives a Kangoo van and he can get that into places where I've seen landys and a Fourtrack get stuck. It's all about reading your route. If I'm completely honest the bloke who got the G stuck kept falling into the tractor ruts through bad planning.
I've never seen a mog get stuck but I can only guess that it would be a struggle to free up when it does?!
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yeah but the tyres put on at the factory are generally pathetic, with a j rating of 5.5 inch can you blame it, thats the one thing we always change, wider and slightly taller tyres. i could recant several tales of beating several heavily modified landrovers (some of them trialers) with a standard g wagon ;) a lot of it is down to the driver, a driver that doesnt have a clue could get a mog stuck in some of the most basic off road situations :)
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I'll not talk about the two times in one day that I towed a G-Wagon out of ruts with my 110 when I was doing my chainsaw course then... :P
I do admire the diff arrangement of the G. It's got a lot of choices compared to a Defender but as you say, the price of them is just shocking!
Don't talk to me about L200's. Of the three I owned two had expensive problems at relatively low mileage and the last one cost me more in 4wd system repairs than I paid for my battered Hi-cap 110, which I should add never broke down once!
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To be fair there are so many ideas of the new defender that it could turn out like dumper truck with a jet engine in it :D
I am not going to reply to that... ;) :-X
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g wagon doesn't have a big enough boot to fit my timber in lol. My trucks P reg. To be fair there are so many ideas of the new defender that it could turn out like dumper truck with a jet engine in it :D
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a g wagon, same reg as your current defender? plus it doesnt matter anyway as the new defenders gonna look like a disco to comply with euro standards, so i presume the running gear underneath is going to be the same as well, mmmmmh independent suspension, all of a sudden land rovers awesome axle articulation is out of the window :o although now that theyre owned by tata people recon (including dad) that theyll be fitting hardy spicer axles next which can come with diff locks...
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I have this conversation regular with Brian and moose :D. U find me a 4x4 car I can service and repair with out plugging into it and one which I can put a ton of timber in that will take it off road then i'll sell my defender ;D
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i was actually comparing it to the g wagon, which the ground clearance isnt to bad actually, plus youve got cross axle diff locks and the land rover cant go into low box whilst moving, unlike the g wagon, then theres the fact that the g wagons just built like a tank anyway. ;D the only problem is the g wagons are a fortune, but they do hold there money. oh and i think the older g wagons had a pickup option :)
also we have a jap pickup, a Mitsubishi l200 raging bull, and were really impressed, but that could be to do with the fact that Merc own Mitsubishi.
Its not my fault ive been brought up with proper machines :-\ ;)
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I think perhaps off road you're comparing them to your mogs which is a little unfair. Compared to the jap pickups they're very good - key feature for me is having the option to go into low box without locking the centre diff. That makes heavy trailer work on slopes (lots of steep lanes around my way) a lot easier, sometimes possible! I've got a Ranger now and it's hopeless.
Of course there is the G Wagon as competition - a nice vehicle indeed but limited ground clearance and no pickup option.
You've been spoilt young man! :D
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theyre good because theyre simple, thats it in my opinion, cramped, handleing capabilties of a bouncy ball on jelly, rust, corrosion of steel on alloy panels, weak in general, no axle diff locks, yes they have great axle articulation, but no weight to apply traction under articulation. its not that i dont like them, the basic concept isnt bad, a nice simple design thats easy to fix, great, in fact i quite like the series 1 and 2, but as soon as the series 3 came they started going downhill if you ask me.
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Nothing wrong with Defenders. Well apart from the noise, leaks, rust.... I'm sure I've missed a few other points too. I really like them though, always have.
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it would have taken less than not being able to get in it for me to sell a defender ;) if i had to have a land rover, it would be a series 1 or 2.
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At 5'6 I'm pretty comfortable in a Defender. My mate who's 6'11 on the other hand - well I sold my 110 because he struggled to fit in it! ::)
U not tell him to sit in the back? :D
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At 5'6 I'm pretty comfortable in a Defender. My mate who's 6'11 on the other hand - well I sold my 110 because he struggled to fit in it! ::)
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Neil, a man with style! 8) weve fitted series 3 doors for more room in the cab ;) as you can imagine, its a bit cramped in a 90 for my dad :-\ :D
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I'm with your dad on this one I think...
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How could u not enjoy the space in a defender cab and the added ventilation they give :D
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yeah, dad tried it and fell out with it ;)
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Lol see Brian, everyone needs a bit of landrover in there life :P ;D
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origionally this was built for off road capability with implement carrying in mind as well, rather like many standard unimogs, but now we are looking at it more from an off road side, hence the disc brake conversion etc. havent had much progress on this recently, due to the cold were working more on the vehicle we have in the garage :) but once spring/summer is here we might get something done to it :)
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A strange combo. Looks like its set up for off roading but has the cut out on the rear bed for linkage and has some of the 3 point linkage there as well.
What use will you be building this one up for, farm work or off road?
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Hi everyone :)
Thought its about time id make a build thread for one of our many, many projects :D
so, i'll start with the landmog, as its the first mog my dad ever owned, he got it in 1990/91 with an absolutely shot cab! it would have looked something like this in good condition
(http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/UnimogclubUK/imagesqtbnANd9GcQ9-Yfi6s5Dqv_tSD9C9x9y6dN1gvRDTBoMfcu8Q0GKOWKHq3XDdZYgCDcjwQ.jpg)
anyway, after a couple of years (and many cracking tales brought about from it) (about 1993/94) he put the land rover cab on... and fell out with it. it was no longer a unimog to him, so he donated it to me (shaaaame :D ) i was born in 93, so that tells you how old i was. anyway, it sat in a barn for many years untill around 2001 when we moved it to our house (the rule is we cant go past the washing line, so as weve gained more projects, weve moved the washing line! ;) ) and there it sat for a while before i decided to make a move, the plan is to make a bit of a breslau project out of it, cheap pannels and all that.
the advantages of the land rover cab on mog chassis rather than mog axles on land rover chassis are:
1- you gain the flexible chasis
2- unimog gearbox and engine
3- you still have the weight of the unimog chassis, putting mog axles on a landrover leaves a lot of unsprung weight per tonne, making the ride uncomfortable.
so here are some pics of it
(http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l524/dubmad1/DSCF0059.jpg)
(http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/UnimogclubUK/DSCF0063.jpg)
(http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/UnimogclubUK/Picture050.jpg)
currently on much wider tyres
Plans are,
disk brake conversion with drum brake rims, already half way through the disk conversion.
roll cage
full front end tilting system for easy access to the engine
possible engine conversion
possible double drum werner winch conversion on the back (we have the winch, just deciding which mog to put it on :D )
anyway, thats all for now, im going to take some more pics tomorrow in the light.
and no, there are no plans as of yet for a respray, it took 20 years to get that paint work :P
Thanks for reading, any questions just ask.
cheers, Brian