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General Topics Forums => Unimog build threads => Topic started by: Villager on February 23, 2013, 04:41:49 pm

Title: Re: The Westfalia 411 project: Worlds slowest!
Post by: Villager on September 02, 2014, 09:04:18 pm
Hi Tim,

those photo's certainly make me a little envious (bumper jealousy right there), wonder if dad will let me take the cab off over winter and stick it in the corner of a field under a cover whilst i do some mechanical work to the old girl. :)
as for the hydraulics, she came with full linkage and hydraulics (quite unusual i believe for a westfalia), the linkage was missing before we got it, but the hub brackets for the chains were still there, dad's taken those and the hydraulic spool levers to put on his 118, can't complain, his is a running machine and he did buy the mog :D he's also offered some 421 linkage for the rear, which fits straight on providing it's a double ram chassis :)

p.s. I want a raised air intake for mine, they look so nice :)
Title: Re: The Westfalia 411 project: Worlds slowest!
Post by: 411mog on August 14, 2014, 07:52:01 pm
Hi Brian

I just noticed in your engine photos that you have the hydraulic pump that uses the compressor lower casing without head and cylinder, but no spool valve block on your steering box. Does it have another set of hydraulic controls or is this all work in progress?
Title: Re: The Westfalia 411 project: Worlds slowest!
Post by: 411mog on August 14, 2014, 07:44:43 pm
Hi Brian
I think you would have enjoyed the show in Germany this summer.
Heres a picture of a nice line up of Westfalias to keep you motivated on your project.

(http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii300/campervan123/Unimog/411/IMG_1219.jpg) (http://s267.photobucket.com/user/campervan123/media/Unimog/411/IMG_1219.jpg.html)

:)
Title: Re: The Westfalia 411 project: Worlds slowest!
Post by: Villager on June 11, 2014, 12:06:32 am
I'd take a guess at early to late 60's, but that's as much as i can tell without being able to see it personally :)
Title: Re: The Westfalia 411 project: Worlds slowest!
Post by: gonebaby on June 10, 2014, 11:14:34 pm
Villager, WHAT YEAR WOULD YOU SAY MINE LOOKS LIKE? CAN'T FIND NOTHING ON IT. IF YOU EVER COME ACROSS A WINDSHIELD LET ME KNOW.. ROB
Title: Re: The Westfalia 411 project: Worlds slowest!
Post by: Villager on June 10, 2014, 08:44:34 pm
Now then tim, sorry forgot to reply, I'd love to buy those cabs, but i don't have the funds at the mo :( thanks for thinking about it anyway :)

Hi Rob, welcome to the club :) I know what you mean, they're my favourite model, something a bit different :) getting hard to find now as well :P Looks a good base you have there, I'd hazard a guess that its around the same eara as mine, its got a 3 piece axle and early type indicators :)

Why do you need a new screen? Panels are the worst to find, haven't found anyone that makes them yet :/

Cheers, Brian
Title: Re: The Westfalia 411 project: Worlds slowest!
Post by: gonebaby on June 10, 2014, 06:33:37 pm
I have one to here in the states. they are great little guys. dont know the year but it runs good. Im having my buddy who owns a body shop swing by to help me start tearing it apart and re[airing all the bumps.  need a windshield and here in the states its hard finding. Rob

Title: Re: The Westfalia 411 project: Worlds slowest!
Post by: 411mog on May 29, 2014, 01:31:12 pm
Pop this number into your ebay search Brian.

171335770428
:)
Title: Re: The Westfalia 411 project: Worlds slowest!
Post by: mogmaner on October 11, 2013, 09:59:15 pm
Nearly the same , the car vertion runs up to 50 hp 4500 rpm , played a lot with the om 636 ,think i may still have some head gaskets around if any one needs one.
Title: Re: The Westfalia 411 project: Worlds slowest!
Post by: Villager on October 11, 2013, 07:04:33 pm
i never new they fitted a 40hp lump to a 401, was it basically the same as the engine fitted to the ponton then?
Title: Re: The Westfalia 411 project: Worlds slowest!
Post by: mogmaner on October 11, 2013, 06:44:38 pm
Iyoust to own a 401 witch i rebult with the engine setup to 40 hp witch was 3800 rpm as fitted to millitry 401/411 this gave a road speed of 55 mph on my sat nav
Title: Re: The Westfalia 411 project: Worlds slowest!
Post by: Villager on May 07, 2013, 08:22:45 pm
had my eye on a westfalia cab auction the other day, but unfortunately the guy removed it, i presume because it wasn't reaching the value he was after, why cant they just put a higher starting bid  :(

so think ive found a new bonnet and head lining for it now  8) which should be awesome  :D
Title: Re: The Westfalia 411 project: Worlds slowest!
Post by: 411mog on February 24, 2013, 08:54:09 pm
I have a friend with a 411 chassis number with a frog eye body. The chassis is the narrow 401 type. Maybe the last of these versions were sold off cheep in the UK when the new westy cab style was being sold in Germany.
Title: Re: The Westfalia 411 project: Worlds slowest!
Post by: Villager on February 24, 2013, 05:33:14 pm
Also, i have never heard of the 411 being fitted with the frog eye cab, as far as i am aware, it was only ever fitted to the 401 and 402? the only westfalia cabs i am aware that were fitted to the 411 were this one, the u32 had the cab designation 117 and the u34 had 120? for example, mine is a u34, and so has a chassis number starting with 411 120.
Title: Re: The Westfalia 411 project: Worlds slowest!
Post by: Villager on February 24, 2013, 04:15:46 pm
i wondered if you thought the cab was a replacement for the soft top, its amazing how many people do. in fact the westfalia cab was always classed as the "comfort" cab :) but farmers and foresters wanted the soft tops, which is why they were cut up  :-\
Title: Re: The Westfalia 411 project: Worlds slowest!
Post by: 411mog on February 24, 2013, 12:33:29 pm
Westfalia made the frog eye cab as well as this latter cab. Both came with the 411 chassis number, even though the frog eye was part of the 401 model series as well.
Title: Re: The Westfalia 411 project: Worlds slowest!
Post by: casto on February 24, 2013, 11:06:41 am
good job i didnt see the 406 cab before i started to weld mine  :o :D
Title: Re: The Westfalia 411 project: Worlds slowest!
Post by: Villager on February 23, 2013, 08:03:36 pm
who are they and where are they based :) and what do you mean by late style cab. i would like to buy a new cab, but theyre also very expensive as well :'(
Title: Re: The Westfalia 411 project: Worlds slowest!
Post by: Tim Shettle on February 23, 2013, 05:15:06 pm
You may need to speak to the guys who had these cabs for sale, to see if they have the late style 411 cab that you may need. I'm sure that it will cost you more to rebuild your cab with new panels rather than buy a good cab to start with.

(http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii300/campervan123/Unimog/IMAG0246.jpg)
Title: The Westfalia 411 project: Worlds slowest!
Post by: Villager on February 23, 2013, 04:41:49 pm
Hello,

just went out to put some oil on the studs that hold my chrome trims on and thought i might as well take some pics whilst there.

so here it is the fabulous westfalia 411, AKA my pride and joy, believe it or not...
with its nun-hood on and after a wash
(http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/UnimogclubUK/IMG_0067_zpsaea4f19f.jpg)


the engine
(http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/UnimogclubUK/IMG_0062_zpsa19a84f0.jpg)
and air filter, plus its super awesome heater 8) ;)
(http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/UnimogclubUK/IMG_0063_zpse3d6f2c2.jpg)

Now as my project threads always end with worlds slowest, people tend to get used to it and completely ignore it, but this one really is going to be slow as it needs a heck of a lot of work, and the panels are ni-on impossible to find, in fact, so far theyve been impossible :'(

So there it is, the basis for my favorite model unimog, when theyre done up they really are very nice to look at :)

Cheers, Brian