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Hello New Members => Introduce Yourself => Topic started by: liongeorge on May 20, 2017, 06:26:30 pm
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Since mine is a “tractor” the top road speed allowable here is around 20-25 mph. Plus I don’t expect to do more than a few hundred miles a year on tarmac, if that, so for now, the tread stays the same. But now I know, it doesn’t take long to swap front tires around.
The weight issue sounds right and I will be looking for a small crane. The Norwegians have a good expression “kjekt å ha” which very roughly translates to ”nice to have”. I am sure that I do need one, I just have to find a reason.
Forestry winches and splitters/firewood processors are a dime a dozen here, so I’ll just borrow for the time being and see what comes up.
Thanks for your help.
Cheers,
Tom
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In regard to tire pattern tread direction the owner's manual from MB states the same. Place treads in opposite direction for road travel and for better traction off-road orient them in the same direction.
BWSwede
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liongeorge,
How does it handle coming down a steep slippery slope with the weight out back?
My little 411, though technically it's a long(er) wheelbase is pretty short and has a relatively high center of gravity. I'm worried that one screw up and it's over, no walking away. The tracks are long and steep here. I walk it down slowly but if you hit a wet patch or a hidden undercut and you could swap ends in a heartbeat and roll the rest of the way down. Or maybe I'm becoming a wimp in my old age.
Another question, you've got a lot more experience with Mogs than I do, what's the reasoning for reversing the tread pattern in the front?
Thanks for your help.
Cheers,
Tom
Hi Tom.
I find the weight at the back a distinct advantage for handling on a mog which tend to be v front heavy. The crane which is not super heavy makes it better handling both on and off road. Off road this is particularly noticable and improves things going down steep inclines. My old 404 used to regularly stand on it's nose until I added weight to the back...it could do this under severe braking in the road :o . Those with more off road experience than me will be able to give you a more thorough opinion but I wouldn't be without it and have done a fair bit of off roading. The crane when folded has a relatively low centre of gravity.
The tyres.....well there is a theory that running ag tyres back to front on the front when doing mainly road work stops them 'scrubbing off' and wearing out too quickly. I can not vouch for whether this works or not the only thing I will say is that the wear seems more even and not 'ridged' with a sharp lip on the edge of cleat as I have seen on many worn ag tyres. I would be V interested on others opinion on this.
I hope that helps. George
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liongeorge,
How does it handle coming down a steep slippery slope with the weight out back?
My little 411, though technically it's a long(er) wheelbase is pretty short and has a relatively high center of gravity. I'm worried that one screw up and it's over, no walking away. The tracks are long and steep here. I walk it down slowly but if you hit a wet patch or a hidden undercut and you could swap ends in a heartbeat and roll the rest of the way down. Or maybe I'm becoming a wimp in my old age.
Another question, you've got a lot more experience with Mogs than I do, what's the reasoning for reversing the tread pattern in the front?
Thanks for your help.
Cheers,
Tom
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Hello liongeorge and welcome to the forum :)
Lovely mog you have there :) Regarding the difflock seals I've been taught by my Dad (Moose) on how to do them and they're not a bad job if like yourself you're mechanically minded ;D
Hope to see many pictures and updates.
Cheers, Brian
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Looks a tidy mog
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Here's another one that popped up as a memory on Face Book. You can see crane and splitter a bit better. It's an HMF crane.
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Here's a photo my daughter took....gives a bit of a idea!
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My mate has a PTO screw type splitter. Great bit of kit, light and economical. Would be difficult to integrate with a linkage crane. Alternative if 411 hydraulics aren't up to it fit a PTO driven pump.....just a thought.
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On a 411 you would be better with a pto driven splitter. More expensive but saves the mog hydraulics and you can get twin speed splitters.
Otherwise, the splitter I have was one of eBay. About £600, but I'm going to upgrade to a pto one this year
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Thanks liongeorge
That looks like a great splitter.
Having a crane would quite an advantage for thinning here and I am sure I would find other applications.
Cheers
Tom
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Liongeorge,
If you get a chance I would really like to see some pictures of the linkage mounted crane and hydraulic splitter setup you have.
I have a little 411 and am looking for ideas for doing pretty much the same.
Thanks for your help.
Cheers,
Tom
Will try and get some pictures and details on at the weekend Tom. The log splitter is one of these: http://www.major-equipment.com/machinery/19/36/73/Log-Splitter/
And the crane is a mini Hiab type of thing not one of those crap ebay things. (has legs, telescopic, 360 deg etc) Can't remember the make now! The pictures will show.
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Liongeorge,
If you get a chance I would really like to see some pictures of the linkage mounted crane and hydraulic splitter setup you have.
I have a little 411 and am looking for ideas for doing pretty much the same.
Thanks for your help.
Cheers,
Tom
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Welcome George nice 120 you have regarding your difflock seals there easy enough to do front one is tricky and ungainly use a pipe clamp to ascertain if both are leaking or if your lucky just the rear.
She has little mileage this will be the issue moisture in the difflock will of accumulated and rusted the cylinder so damaging the seals.
Moose
Cheers Moose, unfortunately both leaking you can hear it at the breathers and niether engage any longer :(. Never mind not the end of the world I am an ag engineer so won't be out of my league and have a workshop......it's just finding the time!
Casto you've got to drop the top, only take 2 mins and even better the windscreen fold down in a minute (Sooo much better than landy set up) and get some flies in your teeth!
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Welcome George nice 120 you have regarding your difflock seals there easy enough to do front one is tricky and ungainly use a pipe clamp to ascertain if both are leaking or if your lucky just the rear.
She has little mileage this will be the issue moisture in the difflock will of accumulated and rusted the cylinder so damaging the seals.
Moose
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Sounds like a good set up. I've not started the logging for this winter 😂.
That's one thing I've still not done is dropping the whole roof down, mostly because I drive to fast and she's a bit noisy. And yes, most people smile at you or give a wave. Saying that, most people look round when they hear mine. It's always heard before seen 😂
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Hi George and welcome!
Nice to hear she's still out earning her keep. Are you running a splitter or saw bench on her?
As usual, enjoy the forum and ask as many questions as you like, well try help you as much as possible
Oh and stick loads of pics up
Cheers
Casto
Cheers Casto, I have a small linkage mounted crane with a good sized hydraulic splitter. Works great, put splitter in back get to tree swing splitter out, chop up tree, splitter on top and off again. Just finished my logging for the year about 6 loads. Great flipping the rag top down when the weather fine. It,s funny a mog trundling down the road always pus a smile on everyone's face :D
More pics on their way
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welcome along, nice to see another 406 AG.
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Hi George and welcome!
Nice to hear she's still out earning her keep. Are you running a splitter or saw bench on her?
As usual, enjoy the forum and ask as many questions as you like, well try help you as much as possible 😊
Oh and stick loads of pics up👍
Cheers
Casto
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Hi all,
thought I'd join this forum as it looks good and I am at last going to start doing up my 1972 ag 406 that I have had for about 16 years. It's all original with only 25,000 miles on the clock and I use it regularly mainly for doing my logs etc. She's a rag top and all in all in good working order though starting to show her age and I have decided to get on and do some tidying up.
My previous mog was an old 404 which had been converted to a sprayer with a Perkins 6354 engine, slow as you like and would give you a head ache but would go anywhere. So working it out I've owned a mog for about 27 years. Anyway first job is to reseal the diff lock pistons, has anyone done this and any top tips much appreciated.
All the best George