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Pulling together / Re: Hiab mog
« on: July 31, 2017, 12:22:15 am »
Turnip,

Thanks for the video. It looks like a great system.

This week I hope to have a functional clutch linkage, and am picking up a Meyer Snow plow. Then it’s just all new wiring and hydraulics to get operational before winter. Right now I’m thinking of a small davit with an electric winch instead of what you have. But I will still need a jack leg no matter what.

Thanks for your help.

Cheers,

Tom

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Pulling together / Re: Hiab mog
« on: July 28, 2017, 12:28:46 pm »
Turnip

Your way of connecting the jack leg is brilliant. Just the thing for my little 411.

When you get the time, would you mind adding some pictures?

Cheers,

Tom

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Hello from a longtime Mog owner
« on: June 16, 2017, 11:33:00 pm »
Since mine is a “tractor” the top road speed allowable here is around 20-25 mph. Plus I don’t expect to do more than a few hundred miles a year on tarmac, if that, so for now, the tread stays the same. But now I know, it doesn’t take long to swap front tires around.

The weight issue sounds right and I will be looking for a small crane. The Norwegians have a good expression “kjekt å ha” which very roughly translates to ”nice to have”. I am sure that I do need one, I just have to find a reason.

Forestry winches and splitters/firewood processors are a dime a dozen here, so I’ll just borrow for the time being and see what comes up.

Thanks for your help.

Cheers,

Tom

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Hello from a longtime Mog owner
« on: June 15, 2017, 12:00:43 am »
liongeorge,

How does it handle coming down a steep slippery slope with the weight out back?

My little 411, though technically it's a long(er) wheelbase is pretty short and has a relatively high center of gravity. I'm worried that one screw up and it's over, no walking away. The tracks are long and steep here. I walk it down slowly but if you hit a wet patch or a hidden undercut and you could swap ends in a heartbeat and roll the rest of the way down. Or maybe I'm becoming a wimp in my old age.

Another question, you've got a lot more experience with Mogs than I do, what's the reasoning for reversing the tread pattern in the front?

Thanks for your help.

Cheers,

Tom

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Hello from a longtime Mog owner
« on: May 24, 2017, 11:26:58 am »
Thanks liongeorge

That looks like a great splitter.

Having a crane would quite an advantage for thinning here and I am sure I would find other applications.

Cheers

Tom


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Introduce Yourself / Re: Hello from a longtime Mog owner
« on: May 24, 2017, 01:40:19 am »
Liongeorge,

If you get a chance I would really like to see some pictures of the linkage mounted crane and hydraulic splitter setup you have.

I have a little 411 and am looking for ideas for doing pretty much the same.

Thanks for your help.

Cheers,

Tom

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Introduce Yourself / Re: 411 in Norway
« on: April 28, 2017, 05:47:39 pm »
Moose,

Sorry, I wasn’t clear, this is a bush truck so will be driven off-road primarily. Here wood is cut mostly in the winter when the ground is frozen. The rest of the year, if not timed well, the trails can be soft. Patches of bog and thixotropic clay can catch you out and there is also the damage done to the trail that will quickly turn an access trail into a river. Forestry tractors with 4wd usually have a locking back axle to minimize trail damage.

The 411’s on the other hand were originally equipped with only the option to lock both axles. Is there a reason for this? Could it cause damage by only locking the rear? It’s a quick and easy fix to add two more valves for the actuators, but it could be expensive if it blows an expensive component.

The manuals don’t cover the axle/chassis clearance but as Brian pointed out, getting it wrong could damage the torque tubes. With hybrid like mine, it’s hard to guess what’s going to be a solution and what’s going to cause an expensive problem.

Cheers,

Tom

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Introduce Yourself / Re: 411 in Norway
« on: April 24, 2017, 10:02:00 pm »
OK Moose & Brian,

One of the hazards of buying a “Hybrid” is that the factory manuals can only tell you what it was before it was played with. That’s why all your help is so valuable and appreciated.

I slopped around in the slushy snow today and confirmed to myself that the distance between the axle and the chassis bumper is approximately the same as the height of the block under the spring. Therefore if I cut the block off, the chassis will sit on the axle – more or less. Obviously not a good situation.

It also appears that the oil pan will not hit the axle before the chassis does. Though I have to admit that my measurements were cursory because I was getting a lot of wet snow down the back of my pants and as I have mentioned before I am a wimp.

The weather report for the next 10 days is mostly above freezing and dry, if the weatherman can be trusted. So when it dries up a bit, I’ll pull the springs off and measure them. (he says with unwarranted confidence).

In the meantime, what do you think of running in 4wd with the back axle locked? Is there a Mog issue with it?

Thanks for all your help.

Cheers,

Tom

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Introduce Yourself / Re: 411 in Norway
« on: April 23, 2017, 07:37:22 pm »
Moose

Thanks for the explanation. I’ve been thinking a lot about it and the application to my particular Mog hybrid. I’m starting to worry about the clearance between the Nissan engine and the axle. I’ve attached some pictures.

The first pic shows the oil pan and diff. The most important question is; how much clearance is there with a stock engine? If the blocks are removed and as you say the dampers have a soft compression there could be damage to the oil pan especially if there was a load on the front, like a snow plow.

You can see by the pictures that even though the springs are blocked up in front, the dampers are in the original mountings. Also, there are rubber bumpers which I don’t think are standard. That leads me to think that it was done to prevent damage. The current bumpers are made from old conveyor belting with a 6 cm gap to the axle. This solution is better than nothing but, not much. I think that at a minimum they need to be replaced by polyurethane bumpers/pads. The problem would be that if the steel lifts are removed, there’s not going to be any clearance.

What would you suggest to avoid some sort of catastrophic failure?

Also, since the diff locks are already converted to air; Is it a good idea to operating in 4wd with only the rear axle locked? Some of the places I’ll be using the Mog have 1 or 2 k’s of steep uphill slogging. In a tractor it’s the way to go but what about Mog’s? Could it cause problems?

Thanks for your help.

Cheers,

Tom

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Mog Spotting / Re: Mog Hybrid in Norway
« on: April 17, 2017, 09:37:54 pm »
Norsk,

I have the parts list and a PDF of “Workshops Manual Unimog 421-411 Volume 1” and have ordered the rest. The trick is that the truck has been heavily modified. For example:
   90’s Nissan non-turbo diesel engine (from a Navara?)
   Hydraulic steering
   Modified air system
   Air actuated lockers
   Hydraulic pump & controls
   Modified rear PTO
   Add on 3 point hitch
   2 inch lift on front axle

That makes it a bit awkward figuring out what’s what.

I’m going to post some pics under “411 in Norway” to make sure there is no confusion with the one above.

Thanks for your help.

Cheers,

Tom

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Mog Spotting / Re: Mog Hybrid in Norway
« on: April 16, 2017, 03:01:19 pm »
Norsk,

I'm about 700 k's north of you, in Åfjord, referred to by the tourist board as "Norway in Miniature".

My little 411 was modified heavily by a guy who had the creativity of the guy who built the one above but without the attention to detail. When the manuals arrive I will try and figure out what are modifications, why they were made and what to keep.

You know the price of 4wd tractors in Norway so, for me at least, this is a cheap alternative with a lot of potential for this area.

How's the tree business in Bergen? I was involved in it 40+ years ago back home and still do a bit for friends.

Lykke til sørover.

Tom

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Mog Spotting / Re: Mog Hybrid in Norway
« on: April 14, 2017, 03:01:08 pm »
Maybe not front linkage, but one of those lighter, pickup truck blades they have in the US. Clearing would definitely be fun. Especially if it was enclosed and had a heater.

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Mog Spotting / Mog Hybrid in Norway
« on: April 13, 2017, 02:14:27 am »
Not something for a purist but it would make clearing the snow on the drive a whole lot more fun.

I hope Google translate works.

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.finn.no%2Fcar%2Fused%2Fad.html%3Ffinnkode%3D93460699&edit-text=

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Introduce Yourself / Re: 411 in Norway
« on: April 06, 2017, 08:58:11 pm »
It sounds like a momentary lack of judgement compounded by taking bad advice from the guy guiding. Then it became a lesson for others in how not to do it.

Learning from YouTube is great until you become the focus of attention.

Cheers,

Tom

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Introduce Yourself / Re: 411 in Norway
« on: March 29, 2017, 09:31:20 pm »
Moose

Point taken on the oil.

Ref the video, I know that if it happened to me, a crowd would materialize with their iPhone's out. 5 minutes and everyone in the county would know and it would be on the evening news. Must remember to pay attention.

Cheers,

Tom

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