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Earning its keep.
« on: February 12, 2014, 03:55:41 pm »
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« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2014, 04:27:52 pm »
That's a nice looking setup... Nice colour too! What are the specs of the mog and chipper, and how does it handle with that and a load of chip in the back?

I need to make a chip box myself but can't decide where to start or what to make it from. I only want to do it once!

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« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2014, 04:51:47 pm »
Mog is ag spec with a 3 way tipper and a cascade box. Chippers a tp 150. i can load that box to the top and its fine power wise although its a bit boat like on tight corners but you just slow down for that. i believe you can fit an anti roll bar and it helps the stability.
i will be fitting a winch to the front first though, nothing fancy just something to aid the pulling over of trees not for skidding out timber.
i seen your 406 on arbtalk. cool mog with plenty potential.

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« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2014, 05:13:46 pm »
How do you find the TP150? It looks to be a nice compact machine and also doesn't weigh a lot looking at the specs. I think I will probably end up with one of those, or maybe a TW150. Most likely whatever I can find at the right price! How long do you think it takes to fill the back with chip if you have a nice neat pile next to it to throw through?

Winch wise - well I've nothing to offer on that really. It's a subject that's confusing me massively at the moment. I know what I would like (a mid mount double drum Werner) but that's just not going to happen! I will most likely end up with a 5t single drum hydraulic thing which could be front mounted, although I would prefer to stick it under the tipper bed and run the rope out of the rear. That leaves the front clear for kit, hopefully with a linkage and pto eventually but at the very least somewhere to mount my Hycrack (I can lift that on and off so no need for lift arms).

My mog is a work in progress. I've just managed to get the funds together to buy a rear linkage for it so that will be going on soon. I need to replace the clutch flexi pipes and re seal the slave cylinder as I bought a new one then broke the O ring when I tested it. One of my tilt tabs is missing where some repair work was done by the previous owner, so I think I need to do that before the cab can be tipped to work on the front pipe... The more I think about it the more Brian (the site owner) has to answer for. He swears Land Rovers are trouble but this thing... And he encouraged me to buy it! :-* :D

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« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2014, 05:25:55 pm »
TP150 is a great chipper it has plenty of crushing power from the rollers and although it says 6" in the spec its closer to 7" and will take a 6" full birch and chip the lot with no prepping, i have the rollers turned down slower so it gives it plenty time to chip. Winch wise i will probable go for an electric one chucked on the front, i have a warn 9.5t on my hilux and its an excellent winch. Unless a hydraulic one comes up at the right price or a proper front pto unit.
Good luck on your search, they are great wee hogs the 406 (this is my second one) but they can be a pig to work on as everything is jammed in there.  :)

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« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2014, 05:59:12 pm »
That sounds promising. There are a fair few TP's around so it should be easy to find a second hand one. I have looked at the 130 but I think it only has one feed roller?

I reckon if you don't want anything too fancy you should be able to find a hydraulic winch that will easily rival an electric one. The power source is readily available and they don't overheat unlike the electric ones can.

If I see anything in my regular search for what I'm after I'll let you know.

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« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2014, 09:37:00 am »
I'm not sure if the 130 has a single roller, two rollers make a massive difference to the infeed of a chipper. I see you mentioned a tw I am not keen on them as the bearings seem to be made of cheese and ungreasable.
My mate had a hydraulic winch from frank Atkinson on his mog but it was dreadfully slow but I can see the advantage of it not overheating, I would only be pulling the odd tree over so I'm sure an electric one would suffice. If I'm skidding timber out I would use my mates pto winch.
But definatly keep us in mind if you see something. Thanks.

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« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2014, 03:21:10 pm »
nice looking rig  :) the TP sits on the back well. I think Villager will have kittens hearing electric+winch+mog  :D but if thats all you need or can afford the its all good. i was thinking of a standard 3 point linkage pto winch (standard one) with reverse box fo the front.

how light does your mog get on the front end when filled? as you say, they handel like boatswhen full but mine gets fairly light on the front end  :-\(i do have HD suspension that wont help but still...)

Id agree, twin rollers make a hell of a difference when there feeding wide forked branches
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« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2014, 04:13:56 pm »
its not too bad on the front when loaded, this year i plan to hinge the full hopper so it tucks up into the chipper better just to shorten the rig. re the winch expense i don't mind spending money on kit my warn was about a grand and a half but it was used loads, the mog one i can't see being used that regular and unless a faster hydraulic ones kicking about i would go for electric.
 

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« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2014, 04:22:29 pm »
I've never understood why the hoppers on chipper don't always hinge? It makes perfect sense. I've got a little Entec Trukloader and it folds up really nicely. It's almost like the designers think that once you've made it to tractor grade kit you must have plenty of storage space? In my world that's not the case at all... In fact I have no idea where I'm going to put half the stuff I would like to buy for my mog. Just the mog on it's own gets in the way enough!

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« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2014, 04:25:34 pm »
some of them do, i had a farmi on my last mog and it hinges away really neat, the newer 150 i think hinge too, mine was the last of the old ones i think as it was purchased in 2009.

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« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2014, 04:46:38 pm »
You'd think they all would. Unless the manufacturers consider it a weakness? The last time I hired a TW150 orad towable machine the hopper fell off as I was driving up the road! I'd still buy one though because my usage level is low and if it has down time it's no big deal. I use a chipper about once a month.

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« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2014, 07:15:37 pm »
nice looking rig you have there :) have to say 406/416 is the best rig for tree surgery in my opinion, not too big, not too small.

hinged hopper are generally on front mounted chippers i find, until you get to the bigger stuff. TP are a great chipper, the build quality is very good. but i have to say, if you want the ultimate chipper to sit behind or in front of a mog, its got to be a schliesing, great chippers, but you pay for it.

regarding the winch, castos right...  ;) why go for electric when youve got hydraulics or PTO to choose from, you can pull more with both of those (and even though you say you dont want to pull too much, i can guarantee, one day you will want to) they don't get hot. and a pto winch is seriously fast! (especially the werner f56  8) ) which is great for pulling trees over that have a lean in  the wrong direction, or when its really windy, we used to get called out by tree surgeons all the time just for the winch, it pulled faster than they could with their tractors. you actually have a mechanical joint with a pto winch, so it will pull and pull and pull, until the engine stalls, or the rope snaps.

plus they dont pull your battery down... (p.s. im not a fan of electric winches  :D )

 
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« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2014, 08:30:08 pm »
Yes the schliesing are belters of chippers either pto or towed I've used both. Does the Werner f56 go straight on the pto at the front of the mog? So it turns anti clockwise? I do like the pto speed and I do agree that you will need a big pull occasional but I find it's few and far between on the jobs I do, hydraulic is probably the better choice as the oil is available but they are quite slow (well the ones I used)  so the electric ticks the boxes for me. Horses for courses though. :)

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« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2014, 08:25:21 am »
yup, straight on the front. i'd list the stats but ive got work to do :D maybe this evening :P
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