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Re: Mogless and needing Mogged up again
« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2014, 09:31:22 pm »
Bloody hell if you have the opertunity to buy a 417 for 5k you need to buy it ! Looks like it's been messed about a bit but nothing that can not be put right. U90 lovely little Mog better with a turbo as for the 140l one of the best mogs ever built OM 364la good power to weght ratio long legs very good offroad, getting hard to find now. All three of these mogs are lovely to drive.
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Re: Mogless and needing Mogged up again
« Reply #16 on: October 06, 2014, 08:26:33 am »
Moose beat me to it. That's not a 406 it's a 417. For that money, jump on it and don't let go until the cheque has cleared! :o

They were the next model to the 406 I think. I'm pretty sure that's the point where the pto box changed to a stronger design. The cab also has a lot more comfort. If you can somehow find the money to buy it, assuming it's mechanically ok, you've found yourself a great deal.
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Re: Mogless and needing Mogged up again
« Reply #17 on: October 06, 2014, 09:26:20 am »
i agree, buy that 417. But if you don't pass the contact details on as i know someone who would buy it. :)
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Re: Mogless and needing Mogged up again
« Reply #18 on: October 06, 2014, 02:58:47 pm »
I called the seller this morning to arrange a time to go and see the 417, its about 2hours away from my workplace. He said he'd accepted an offer under on it this morning but was not sure if the guy was a genuine buyer.... I am now second man on the rope!! :(
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Re: Mogless and needing Mogged up again
« Reply #19 on: October 06, 2014, 03:15:12 pm »
Hold on a mow jus taking a closer look I think I can see an oil cooler on the front from a torque converter if you want to drive something like a chipper or a flail then this gearbox is no good to you it's perfect for a winch but no good because it won't lock up solid. I knew a fellow who had a 417 just like that he sold it to a chap in the north west. Still a nice Mog though. And a gearbox swap would be around 5k  :(
But good 417s comand anywhere between 15/20k
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Re: Mogless and needing Mogged up again
« Reply #20 on: October 06, 2014, 03:30:03 pm »
apparently its got a special torque converter fitted as it was originally an RAF tug for shifting aircraft around airfields and had the plough equipment fitted when he got it. the seller bought it ex mod and used it only as a plough in the winter. usual snow plough rotted drivers side floor and salt damage apply  ::)
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Re: Mogless and needing Mogged up again
« Reply #21 on: October 07, 2014, 07:00:13 pm »
Is there any way you could steal the oil flow for the drive and use it to run a hydraulic chipper?
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Re: Mogless and needing Mogged up again
« Reply #22 on: October 07, 2014, 08:33:32 pm »
Possibly, although from what the seller said it has a pto at the front. Im going to see it hopefully on friday, the other buyer fell through so now i have first refusal :)
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Re: Mogless and needing Mogged up again
« Reply #23 on: October 07, 2014, 08:34:39 pm »
Just got a call from owner of the white u90 hes looking for £17k .. too rich for me or my work!
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Re: Mogless and needing Mogged up again
« Reply #24 on: October 07, 2014, 09:02:39 pm »
The 417 is nicer than a U90 anyway! A lot less electronic kit I think.
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« Reply #25 on: October 07, 2014, 09:31:46 pm »
Certainly better looking, i think :)
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Re: Mogless and needing Mogged up again
« Reply #26 on: October 07, 2014, 09:45:20 pm »
Well the 417 runs the OM352 engine. 5.7 straight 6. The U90 uses a 2.9 5 cylinder turbo affair if I remember correctly. Dragging about the same power from both engines, I'm pretty sure the higher capacity unit will be stronger and more reliable.
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Re: Mogless and needing Mogged up again
« Reply #27 on: October 08, 2014, 08:09:38 am »
The torque converter has no oil flow as such it receives an oil supply from the tail end of the power steering only for replenishment all it is is a torque convertor before the manual gearbox. You guys are thinking of hydrostatic drive, drive from hydraulic pump on the gearbox totally different thing and very rare on a 406.
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« Reply #28 on: October 08, 2014, 01:36:18 pm »
Oh ok. So a torque converter is more like a viscous coupling?
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